INTERVIEW
with THEODOR BASTARD, reply Fedor
by Giancarlo Bolther
Fedor your project started over twenty years ago as a solo project,
then became a band, a long path in the music, could you do an introduction
for our readers and a balance of your long journey, please?
It has been a long way. We started as an experimental noise band.
More precisely, it was not even a band. I was alone, he-he. But then,
after joining Yana and the guys, it became sort of band. At that time,
we performed in some very underground places. For example, in an abandoned
former factory of children's bicycles or in squats in the city center.
We dressed in such crazy helmets with glasses, used gas masks, and
all this was more like a performance of the week with music. I can’t
say that in those days we rehearsed a lot. But then, from album to
album, it became interesting for us to work with different forms.
Yana (vocalist) and I became interested in folk music of the peoples
of the world. I began to travel a lot: Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Bulgaria,
Turkey, etc. I began to collect national instruments. I got an Arab
darbuk teacher.
Then I became interested in native Slavic folklore. Perhaps our albums
are so different, because we constantly learn something ourselves.
It is like a chronicle of our life and our interests.
Can you tell us about the making of Volch'ya Yagoda? Which
direction have you take? In what is different with the previous ones?
Album Volch'ya Yagoda was not easy for us. When we released our sixth
album, Oikoumene, we thought it was the ultimate level. In the studio
aspect for sure. Such a number of live instruments, such multilayered
arrangement, multilayered sampling - it seemed to me that we have
nowhere to grow further. But when the next album Vetvi (previous to
Volch'ya Yagoda) appeared, it revealed to us a new movement vector.
We moved to live outside the city, began to visit the northern forests
a lot. Africa and Arab East in our music gradually gave way to the
northern sound. And the Volch'ya Yagoda album is such a natural continuation
of this path. In general, in the term World Music, in this concept
itself there is something flawed. I began to understand this only
recently. It’s like Thai beads that local residents sell to
tourists in order to somehow survive, and the tourist brings them
home and shows them as an exotic. That's what the modern genre of
World Music is. This is not so joyful. And at some point, we realized
that with our Africa and other things, we are like these tourists
with beads. But we were born in the north, all my and Yana's childhood
passed in the village on a farm. We are familiar with old folk songs,
Slavic spells and lullabies. Since childhood, we heard the sound of
a gusli, a harp, a beep. Why not record it, why not sing about what
is closer to us? Isn't that more honest? And most importantly, earlier
no one tried to do something modern with this folk music of our country,
with these instruments. Previously, no one tried to somehow produce
it seriously. And we just decided to do it! Volch'ya Yagoda, with
all the variety of songs, is a very solid album. It is because of
this approach.
Which is the greatest satisfaction happened to you in your
musical career?
This is just the Way. It is our life. Every day, music gives us new
friends, new travels and new experiences. What else can we dream of?
You have moved to Karelia, in a wood, why? Do you want to
be apart from the world?
It seems to me that this question is set not quite right. Because
exactly cities are fenced off from the real world of nature. In cities,
everything is artificial.
Everything this makes a person forget about death, makes a person
consuming. It makes you run after illusions, turns your whole life
into a race for some beautiful prize that you never will have. Do
you understand? The city is a comfortable, well-designed corral for
livestock. When you find yourself in a forest or on a lake, you understand
this especially vividly. Real life is here, in the lap of nature.
And answering your question, we moved out of town, because we wanted
to be closer to real life, not to life invented without us.
Karelia has an enchanting name, but not very well known by
western people, can you describe this land and its beauty, please?
Karelia is southern and northern. Part of it is in Finland, part is
in Russia. Karelia has a difficult fate. Once upon a time there were
Swedes. And the Finns. And the Russians. And many more different indigenous
tribes. This is a harsh northern region with unpredictable nature,
with spruce and pine forests. Bears are found here. Moose and hare
come straight to my house. In Karelia there are beautiful cliffs and
clear lakes with fresh water. When, for example, I am on the banks
of Onega, I understand that I do not need Thailand, Cambodia and all
the resorts in the world. In summer, Onega has the best forest wild
beaches in the world. Sand, pines.
Yes, it’s sometimes cold here. But we are used to it.
I know a little bunch of russian bands, and I’ve found that
there are great artists from Russia, but we know very little about.
Can you tell us more about the russian music scene of today and how
do you live this, please? There is a connection between artists?
Theodor Bastard is a quite incommunicative band.
It is difficult to say whether we have the closest associates.
We loved the Teatr Yada band, but their vocalist, our friend Jan Nikitin,
perished.
This project can hardly be understood abroad.
It exists in the reality of the Russian language.
Like the band Grazhdanskaya Oborona, our teachers, their leader also
perished.
And from the living bands it’s hard for me to name someone.
There were Ole Lukkoye, a cool band, they were known abroad, but now
they almost do not perform.
The remaining bands are a new generation, quite superficial.
They have a lot of views, a lot of hype, as they like to call it,
but not enough content.
The world of music is going through a great crisis, record
sales are down, what do you think of this situation and why make a
new album in this context?
An album is a conceptual work. This is not just a collection of songs.
This is the whole story. It is like a novel. And we do not make albums,
thinking about sales.
Sales do not interest us at all. If we were interested in sales, we
would make other music.
Your music is stongly connected to the nature, with a lot
of traditional and folk elements, do you have a message to spread
or it’s only an esthetic choice?
This is not only an aesthetic choice. And this is not a message, as
is commonly understood at the verbal level. Music provides a unique
opportunity to experience a non-verbal experience! Our message is
in the non-verbal area - beyond words.
Your music seems to be full of spiritual vibes, are you interested
in spirituality?
Of course.
Feel free to end this interview as you like… if there
is something more that you would like say?
Thanks for the interesting questions!
Reviews (only in italian):
Oikoumene; Vetvi;
Volch'ya
Yagoda
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